Review-Roundup: Psycho-Pass II 05, Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works 05, CROSS ANGE 06

[C12] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 05.mp4 - 00002That’s how everyone looks like after they’ve found out that Shirou is supposed to be this series’ protagonist.

This time I review:

Psycho-Pass II 05: The new Hungry Chicken has come out, guys! Also, some other stuff happens that fails to move forward the story.

Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works 05: Shirou makes one bad decision after another and so Rin tries to kill him. Things don’t go as planned.

CROSS ANGE 06: Ange’s Top-Maid has come back to resume her job of acting like Ange is NOT a Norma (although she really is). Luckily money is there to save the day when kindheartedness is nowhere to be found.

Psycho-Pass II 05 Review:

[HorribleSubs] PSYCHO-PASS 2 - 05 [480p].mkv - 00005Wasn’t one advantage of the Sybil-System supposed to be that it would find for you a list of jobs that would suit you? I don’t think this guy has the right job if his attitude to his work is “Aw, fuck it, how about I just play this new mobile game instead!”.

The second season continues its mixed efforts to get to the same level of entertainment the first season had offered. Maybe it hasn’t been such a good idea in the first place to associate itself this closely with the first season. Maybe the second season would’ve been better off if it had been a big departure from the story-stuff that concerned the first season. Because what the series is doing right now isn’t working. On one hand you have the comparison to a still superior first season and on the other hand, the stuff this season is doing, it’s… not even remotely as serious and intellectual as this season seems to believe it is.

With this episode slight pacing-problems start to crop up because this season has a lot of plot but not a lot of story so far. This episode is very indicative of how this season tries to be like the first season but actually isn’t. You have Kamui being just like Makishima who motivates smaller criminals to do evil stuff and that’s what the MWPSB has to deal with before it can finally confront the big villain at a plot-convenient time. It’s the very same story-structure the first season had used! But the little stories that precede the confrontation with Kamui aren’t that interesting. Sure, it’s a nice change of pace to make those more about the flawed nature of the MWPSB but overall, that’s all stuff the first season has already covered. Really, the biggest problem is that this second season has yet to add something innovative or interesting to the world of Psycho-Pass. Everything it does has been more or less already covered by the first season.

But the problem of focusing on plot over story is very pronounced in this episode as it kinda seems like a filler-episode from a story-perspective. Stuff just happens without a real story attached to it. And sure, there’s some stuff you read into the game-thingy but it’s not like the episode on a whole actually cares about that. Instead, the whole thing comes off as cheap and hamfisted. “Hey, look, here’s this game about a chicken killing stuff… Really happy it’s just a game… get it?”, is what he said while he controlled mechas to kill innocent people. What does this even mean?! Are games bad, is the attitude of the person playing wrong, is the whole culture at fault…?! Who knows! It can be anything! In the end, this is one of those overly neat metaphors that are about everything and nothing. It’s just so badly utilized that it has no dramatic weight within the story.

And this flaw of stuff happening without having a big story-impact continues as the actual MWPSB is fairly useless in finding out what’s going on. Sure, Akane and evil Enforcer-guy find a hideout of Kamui but not only has this nothing to do with the actual events of the episode but it’s also very indicative of how Akane’s story-relevant discovery has literally nothing to do with the crisis developing within the training-grounds. Akane and her team, as well as some lazy MWPSB-guys from Team 3, arrive and Akane finds something completely unrelated to the actual incident in this episode. This episode treats its incident with the game and the mechas like a shocking development but the fact is that there isn’t a good build-up happening for that development. It just happens. I haven’t heard about the game prior to this and Kamui’s ability to hack those mechas wasn’t mentioned before either. Overall, it’s really just a plot-device and nothing more.

At this point it’s just ridiculous how impotent the MWPSB seems to be in catching Kamui. Of course, the plot doesn’t help either by allowing Kamui to have these elaborate traps prepared for the MWPSB. It’s just not a very balanced portrayal which ends up making the hunt for Kamui look like a plot-device and less like a natural progression.

As for Kamui… Hmm, at this point my guess is that he has three objectives: He wants to show off the injustice of the Sybil System, he wants to be an avatar of justice himself and he wants to show the world that redemption is possible. His original motivation is probably deeply personal and he viewed the inciting incident as very unjust. But he hides his need for revenge under the guise of a humble, benevolent prophet who wants to spread his vision of a “better world” where he thinks the inciting incident wouldn’t have happened.

But there’s also something fanatical about him as the people who he thinks he’s saving get practically brainwashed cult-style. The reason they have a clear color is because they leave all the responsibility of their actions to him and simply follow his orders without worrying about the consequences. The whole thing seems a tad religious as the brainwashed people cling to him in the hope that he will lead them to salvation. His name “Kamui” is very indicative of this cult-leader-strategy also. There’s a bit of an egomaniacal streak to his behavior as him “helping” those brainwashed people is as much about how great he is as it is about saving those people.

At this point, though, that’s all just speculation… What isn’t speculation is how Maki just continues to be the worst cop imaginable. She goes to her boss and complains about Akane and the chief is like “Yep, don’t give a shit.” to which Maki says “But you have heard about my complaints, right, RIGHT?!”. So, the chief just responds waving her away “Yeah, yeah, whatever, just go already…” and for a goodbye Maki just says threateningly “I hope you remember that when shit has hit the fan… CHIEF!”. That’s basically what happened in that scene between Maki and the lady-chief of the MWPSB. And it’s hilarious because it’s HER shit that will hit the fan probably and not Akane’s. She has done nothing good so far during this series. The only time she’s somewhat acceptable is when she’s distracted by her need to lust after Yayoi. And hey, at least she’s taking the initiative in that regard and is really going for it. Apparently Maki is searching private counsel from Yayoi regularly which is just too adorable… considering that her love is totally doomed, of course.

This episode continues to lower the bar for this series compared with the first season. It’s still an entertaining series to watch but the cracks get bigger and you’ve gotta wonder whether this season will do more harm than good in regards to the popularity of the Psycho-Pass-franchise. It’s just that Kamui as a villain isn’t half as interesting as Makishima. And it isn’t only the cheap plotting of this season that’s at fault here. Makishima always seemed like a really fucked up idealist which was a very intriguing concept for the setting of this series. Meanwhile Kamui doesn’t seem that interesting mostly thanks to how the series has avoided him so far and has only shown him in little bits here and there that aren’t enough to make him a compelling character.

Also, about the politican that isn’t really a politician… Yeah, the first season already had done a very good job of tackling the subject of a fan impersonating someone popular.

Episode-Rating: 7.0/10

Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works 05 Review:

[C12] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 05.mp4 - 00001Naturally Saber needs rest from the recent battles and Shirou is strong enough to just continue living like nothing has happened! Really, Grail-War, Servants, magic and all that other shit… Not a problem for Shirou apparently! He just carries on as if it’s business as usual!

This series’ biggest problem is Fate/Stay Night itself. Or another way to phrase this would be that this series’ biggest enemy is this series’ ambition to be a sequel to Fate/Zero. Look, the ambition of the latter has actually improved the series so far, I feel like and so I’m all for it. Sadly, though, this adaptation is way too faithful for its own good while also hinting at easily imaginable improvements. This series seems to excel at improving the original version of Fate/Stay Night and then keeps you reminding of why it needed improvement in the first place.

This episode is the perfect example of why the Fate/Stay Night-storyline just doesn’t fit within the universe that was superficially hinted at by Fate/Stay Night and was actually shown by Fate/Zero. This adaptation tries SO hard to unite the difference in quality between Fate/Stay Night’s story and Fate/Zero’s story. But naturally they don’t want to risk the ire of the most fanatical fans and so they try to stay somewhat faithful. This means, though, that we get an episode like this one. Really, this episode only makes sense within the most generic framework for a shounen-series. In the case of this series, though, that has built up quite a history it just feels inane.

This series is about a Grail-War. Not any Grail-War, it’s a tradition with laws and shit like that. But the whole thing is kinda fucked up now because… reasons, so the newest Grail-War is a fucking disaster. And with that I mean, it produces a generic shounen-series. That’s really what Fate/Stay Night is. Except the series has SO much exposition that it actually is capable of developing some good plottwists in the latter half. But the problem is that it hints at this far bigger universe full of mages and shit. And then Fate/Zero came along actually showing off a proper Grail-War with an unplanned ending that led to the events of Fate/Stay Night.

Fate/Zero is out there in anime-form and in Light-Novel-form, both are fairly good. Now, though, we have come back to the thing that started it all and yeah, it is kinda obvious that it was less ambitious in its beginnings compared to how popular it had become after its release. The real problem starts when you have a plot about a Grail War, this epic conflict where superhuman heroes battle for various magicians against each other and then you get someone like Shirou as a protagonist.

Shirou could be a great protagonist – except he’s portrayed like a really shitty one for most of the series. He just doesn’t want to be a hero, he has a motivation thanks to being raised by Kiritstugu and there’s even a trauma to fuel the motiviation. That’s Batman-level shit as far as cheesy motivations go. And yet Fate/Stay Night does the usual mistake of generic shounen-series by trying to make its protagonist blander (in order to make him more relatable, one assumes). Therefore Shriou constantly doesn’t do the smart thing, he always has no clue what’s going on but in the end he preserves and he does that by being the most obnoxious, moralizing being in the room. Shirou really is a prime example of a bad shounen-protagonist. It’s not like he’s an uninspired character or that he lacks good characterization. Really, it’s just this misguided idea that you should start out with a very generic protagonist and then try to make such a character more interesting. That’s what Shirou is: A character that becomes more interesting but isn’t one who’s inherently interesting (or even likeable).

And the actual episode is just lackluster within the storyline of this series. The conflict between the various Masters and their servants is portrayed as being paramount. Everything is about the Grail-War. Yet, we get extended scenes of characters sort-of ignoring that conflict. The first one is the very sexist one of Shirou telling Saber (who’s way stronger than him) to just rest because she needed to recover her mana while he (although somewhat beaten up) would go to school. Not only does it seem weird for Shirou to allow Saber to rest while he goes off alone, it also seems somewhat naïve in regards to what the new Masters in this new Grail-War are doing. I’m not sure whether Rin has already mentioned this to him but the audience knows at least that the new Masters in this Grail-War are breaking the rules left and right. Rin’s reaction to Shirou appearing at school is really natural at least in that regard.

There’s this moment where Shirou hears about how Shinji, one of his friends, may have done something bad to one of the members of the Archery-Club and all of a sudden the episode turns into this little mystery-plot where Shinji tries to find out what has happened by asking various people in a (more or less) montage-sequence. Granted I know what’s going on but still… what a bullshit-move! Nobody gives a shit about seeing Shirou do a bad Sherlock-Holmes-impression.

But that dull sequence gets interrupted by Rin trying to kill Shirou. And it opens with a really stupid moment where Shirou argues that he didn’t need to bring Saber to school because there are always people around. But he’s saying that while he’s OBVIOUSLY completely alone with Rin. In the first series this moment is somewhat cheesy but in this extended version it really just seems like a giant waste of time. We already know Rin’s opinion and it’s hardly a secret who had saved Shirou when he was dying at the very beginning. Rin trying to kill in this episode is such a pretentious, tsundere-like way to hide her love for Shirou. But without actually acknowledging this cheesy story-development it barely makes sense that she would try to kill him in one moment but then would act flustered about why she’s insistent on taking care of Shirou and calling a truce. Especially when you remember that they sort-of had ALREADY DONE THAT a few episodes ago. Rin had actually broken their truce more or less and yet Shirou doesn’t even resent her for that. He’s mostly just confused and when she relents to his “charm”, he’s mostly just like “Yeah, I mean, I never considered you to be an enemy to begin with.”. Shirou just continues to be one of the most oblivious characters in this series – which is just fitting, of course, since he’s supposed to be nothing more than a generic shounen-anime-protagonist.

Episode-Rating: 6.5/10

Cross Ange 06 Review:

[HorribleSubs] Cross Ange - 06 [480p].mkv - 00009This series’ fanservice is just insane! Really, this fanservice doesn’t even care about getting a reaction from the male audience, it just shoves it into everyone’s face with a total disregard for tone and style. And what does “four-dimensional boobs” even mean?!

Forget what I’ve said about last episode, this show is still fun. And with that I mean, it’s fun in the worst possible ways. This episode shows the return of Ange’s maid and raises the question whether she should be returned to her homeland. It should be mentioned that she probably will reach her homeland in a bodybag if she leaves the Norma-base where Ange is. And so Ange is asked to accept the presence of her former most favorite maid who had naturally lied to her about her lacking magic-powers her whole life.

At this point, it’s just hilarious to watch Ange be the most insulting asshole imaginable while the series still tries to portray her as a sympathetic heroine. In previous episodes (except the last episode) she had always been a complete asshole, most of the time, a racist one as well. Ange has never been likeable.

And then the fifth episode came along where Ange was shown (more or less) having a dalliance with a dude on an island. That episode was THE worst! Seriously, they establish Ange to be this big asshole but her icy asshole-defenses melt when faced with a (sorto-of accidentally) pervy guy…?! That was really the worst version of a romance imaginable. It was just SO cheesy and not self-aware.

Worse yet, there was a hint of Ange softening up, that she actually had learned that one shouldn’t be the sort of asshole she had been before. But here we are: The sixth episode and yep, Ange is a complete asshole again!

This series can literally only deal with characterizations in absolutes. There are no nuances in the portrayal of any character in this show. Everyone’s just the obnoxious asshole they appear to be. So why am I still watching? Because no sane series would do such a thing. What is this series even thinking doing this sort of bullshit?!

At this point, though… and that only means if you have come this far and haven’t dropped this series yet… You will realize that apparently this series is just fine with Ange being a total asshole. The way she treats her former maid is SO insulting that it’s hard to imagine how the maid’s actions would even have an effect. Ange just doesn’t give a shit about the luxury her top-maid provided for her in the past. And so naturally everything her maid does for her is bad and Ange vocally complains about the whole thing, even questions the necessity of her presence.

But the maid-character is just as ridiculous in the way she’s insisting on treating Ange like the princess she had been. She apologizes for lying to Ange quickly without every really delving into the reasons beyond “Hey, I still want to be your maid.”. And naturally she’s also a racist who also stupidly still clings to Ange not being one of those evil Normas. That doesn’t make sense! Wouldn’t at least SHE be aware of the bullshit that is Norma-racism?! She helped an adored a Norma for years!

You know what saves the maid? Ange overhearing that she will probably be executed one she has returned to her homeland. There were also a lot of insults heaped upon Ange’s shoulders but then again – those were less insults and more honest assessments of her personality. Yep, the way this series portrays Ange she is indeed the cold bitch her bullies describe her as.

Also, I imagine there’s no purpose in trying to figure out what this series is saying about currency. Star Trek was more economy-oriented than this series. I mean, a lot of things about this series make no sense and the portrayal of the characters is equally absurd. And yet I have to say that this is indeed a good contender to being “so bad, it’s good”. Nothing this series has done even seems remotely like something an ordinary series would do – and that’s not a compliment. It isn’t just the ridiculous characters or the insane, unnecessary amounts of blood and gore in this series, it’s the way all this is done with complete lack of self-awareness. This is a series that thinks it’s good and edgy without having a real understanding of what good, edgy shows are like. And the produced absurdity has a certain charm for how ignorant and incompetent it is.

Episode-Rating: 4.5/10

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Posted on November 10, 2014, in Anime, Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryū no Rondo, Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works, Psycho Pass II, Reviews and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. If I understand you correctly, Psycho Pass season 1 was quite a good series while season 2 cannot live up to the standards? In this case, I should probably give season 1 a try before even trying to begin with the sequel.

    Speaking of new series that builds upon a successful prequel, FSN UBW seems to enjoy high popularity. Regarding Shirou, I would not go as far as questioning his entire motive willing to become a hero of justice. The series did an above average job linking his past and his experiences to his current self. However, his decision-making process and responses to certain questions are beyond any human rationale.

    On the other hand, we have Rin, whose background and reasoning are well explained. Adding in her astonishing abilities as magician and her generally interesting conversations, she could have been a realistic and outstanding character. Until the author decided to make her fall in love with Shirou out of nowhere (Did I miss any significant story developments that would explain her love?).

    Overall, the story revolving around high-school students is simply not credible and viable after Fate/Zero as you mentioned. Alas, I have some affection to the Fate franchise so I will stick with it until the end.

    Finally, just out of curiosity, did you read the end of the Naruto manga series?

    Best.

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    • “In this case, I should probably give season 1 a try before even trying to begin with the sequel.”

      Definitely! During the last season an Extended version came out which added a few scenes and delivered its story with double-episodes. But it’s not like it made the original version worse in comparison. I’ve also written a review about the first season: https://otakuness.wordpress.com/2014/09/26/psycho-pass-extendend-review/

      And I have to admit honestly that I would rate it now even higher knowing how sub-par this second season’s efforts are in continuing where the first season left off.

      “Regarding Shirou, I would not go as far as questioning his entire motive willing to become a hero of justice. The series did an above average job linking his past and his experiences to his current self. However, his decision-making process and responses to certain questions are beyond any human rationale.”

      You’re right. They do a decent job of linking his personality to his past and motivation. But I feel like that one: it lacks dramatic weight so far. Okay, so he wants to be a hero of justice VERY badly but the drama is expressed in him being this ridiculous mix of stuck-up, humble and impulsive. It seems weird that in some scenes he’s a mopy hero who’s like “I can’t be allowed to be happy until I finally figure out how to be a true hero.” and in others he’s brimming with intent without thought where he’s like “I’m a hero! I can handle everything! Look at me being a hero!”. There’s this mixed message (at least at this stage of the story) where being a hero means a couple different things and rather than seeming ambiguous, it just comes off as the series being indecisive.

      And the other thing is how this motivation to be a hero is everything that informs Shirou’s decisions most of the time. There’s something very oblivious about his sense of self and his awareness of the situation. And when it becomes that obvious that the character isn’t really thinking about the consequences, you have these moments of detachment as the audience where you’re like “But wouldn’t it be better…?”. It’s like in a horror-movie where you just know that when a group is hunted down by some monster and someone’s suggesting they should split up, you immediately know that that won’t end well.

      “Until the author decided to make her fall in love with Shirou out of nowhere (Did I miss any significant story developments that would explain her love?).”

      Hey, it isn’t a genuine Visual-Novel-route until you have at least some H-scenes with a love-interest ^^ …

      “On the other hand, we have Rin, whose background and reasoning are well explained. Adding in her astonishing abilities as magician and her generally interesting conversations, she could have been a realistic and outstanding character.”

      Well, her character DOES use the tsundere-template for a lot of her actions. But I agree with you that she would’ve been a far more interesting protagonist for this series than Shirou is. That episode 00 really got my hopes up as well in that regard. I mean, setting aside the characters itself… How much more interesting would this series’ story have become if we would’ve seen it from an entirely different perspective this time around?

      “Finally, just out of curiosity, did you read the end of the Naruto manga series?

      Best.”

      I did 😀 . I don’t know… On one hand it was actually a nice finale – except it dragged on for way too long. It tied a lot of the series’ storypoints nicely together thematically as well as metaphorically. And the epilogue was also nice. It’s just…The series just didn’t do enough for me to keep me invested.

      Regarding manga, the one that had a bigger impact on me was Hajime no Ippo’s last few chapters. It’s just this straightforward boxing-manga-series but in those last few chapters it actually portrayed how Hajime after his recent loss got SO beat up that he obviously had taken some brain-damage in addition to a swollen up face. Stuff like being unable to draw a straight line and being generally unfocused. And his girlfriend basically told him she would leave him if this would happen again. That series got REALLY dark for a couple chapters there.

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  2. M0rg0th, du sprichst doch Deutsch, oder?
    Dann lass mich das besser in Deutsch schreiben, weil ich s****** in Englisch bin.
    Cross Ange Folge 6:
    Also an und für sich muss ich deiner Meinung zustimmen, außer das Ange wieder ein kompletter Arsch ist. Per se hat Ange ihre Kameradinnen (soweit ich es verstand) akzeptiert (zumindest behandelt sie sie nicht mehr komplet wie Maden, auch wenn sie ihnen dennoch keine Abschüsse überlasst), das sie sich jetzt aber Momoka gegenüber so arschig verhält ist klar (Jahrelang davon gewusst, das sie eine Norma ist und nichts gesagt und so) und sie weißt Momoka auch immer daraufhin das sie eine Norma ist. Und irgendwo finde ich es auch “gut”, das sie Momokas Dienste zurückweißt, oder was wäre wenn sie das alles dankend angenohmen hätte (dann wäre es aufjedenfall wieder Essig mit den Kameradinnen). Was aber wirklich schlecht ist, das die Folge wirklich vergeigt, Anges verhalten gegenüber den anderen Normas zu zeigen. Laut der letzten Folge behandelt sie sie jetzt nicht mehr wie Maden und so, aber gibt es irgendwo eine kurze Szene in der sie irgendwie mit irgendwelchen Normas interagiert um das ein wenig auch zu zeigen, nein.
    Stattdessen sieht man sie die ganze Zeit, wie sie sich mit Momoka rumschlagen muss.
    Und dann finde ich es auch noch eine vergebene Chance, das Ange nicht wirklich nachbohrt, was jetzt mit ihrem ehemaligen Königreich passierte, scheinbar blieb doch alles beim alten. Ihr ist es eigentlich sogar egal (wobei, wenn man bedenkt, das sie mit ihrem alten Leben abschloss, ist es sogar irgendwie konsequent von ihr).
    Dann finde ich auch noch super dass das Gerücht, das Momoka exekutiert wird, dann plötzlich als Wahr herausgestellt wird. Ernsthaft, das wird als Gerücht behandelt, und dann ist das plötzlich “scheinbar wirklich” Wahr. Hätte Ange das bei einem Gespräch zwischen Jill und der einen Managesegneten gehört, bei der es auch defacto bestätigt wurde, dann wäre es um ein vielfaches Nachvollziehbarer gewesen.
    Und wieso wurde Ange überhaupt erlaubt Momoka zu kaufen?
    Ach ja, M0rg0th, du wolltest doch das die Serie auch Homoerotik zeigt, die nicht auf Dominanz, sondern auf Liebe und so beruht, nunja, mit Momoka haben wir das jetzt wenigstens (wobei das auch Interpretationssache ist).
    Trotzdem, 4.5/10 sind viel zu Gnädig. 3/10 oder 2.5/10 sind angemessener. Wobei ein 1/10 ist dann auch noch irgendwie zuviel.

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    • “M0rg0th, du sprichst doch Deutsch, oder?”

      Well, living in Germany certainly helps 😉 .

      “Und irgendwo finde ich es auch “gut”, das sie Momokas Dienste zurückweißt, oder was wäre wenn sie das alles dankend angenohmen hätte (dann wäre es aufjedenfall wieder Essig mit den Kameradinnen).”

      Ja, durchaus… ABER die bissige, ablehnende, beleidigende Art mit der sie auf Momoka reagiert ist einfach zu abrupt, um verständnisvoll zu sein. Wie du gesagt hast, interessiert sie sich in keinster Weise für die Ereignisse in ihrer ehemaligen Heimat. Aber was Momokas Lügen angehen, so gibt es da auch keine wirkliche Konfrontation. Ange sagt einfach “I hate you! Go away!” und damit hat sich für sie die Sache scheinbar geklärt. Erst als sie zufällig hört, dass Momoka exekutiert wird, wenn sie zurückkehren sollte, beginnt sie aktiv zu werden. Ich meine, man sagt ja alle guten Dinge sind drei und sie hat bereits drei Normas indirekt umgebracht, also will sie einen vierten solchen Vorfall sicherlich vermeiden.

      “Dann finde ich auch noch super dass das Gerücht, das Momoka exekutiert wird, dann plötzlich als Wahr herausgestellt wird. Ernsthaft, das wird als Gerücht behandelt, und dann ist das plötzlich “scheinbar wirklich” Wahr. Hätte Ange das bei einem Gespräch zwischen Jill und der einen Managesegneten gehört, bei der es auch defacto bestätigt wurde, dann wäre es um ein vielfaches Nachvollziehbarer gewesen.”

      Es war auch lächerlich wie Ange wirklich auch nur die Sache mit der Exekution wahrgenommen hat und die restlichen Kommentare wie, dass Ange Momoka schlecht behandelt nicht wirklich darauf eingeht. Zero shits given, wenn Ange darauf angesprochen wird, eine nettere Person zu sein…

      “Und wieso wurde Ange überhaupt erlaubt Momoka zu kaufen?”

      Weil der Rassismus der Serie nicht genug ist und eben einfach noch Sklaverei in den Topf wirft. Und der lapidare Kommentar der Kommandantin “Man kann alles kaufen, wenn man genügend Geld hat.”. Das heißt so viel wie “Slavery’s fine! Of course you can buy a person with money!”.

      “Ach ja, M0rg0th, du wolltest doch das die Serie auch Homoerotik zeigt, die nicht auf Dominanz, sondern auf Liebe und so beruht, nunja, mit Momoka haben wir das jetzt wenigstens (wobei das auch Interpretationssache ist).”

      Hmm, ja, es gibt eine einseitige Liebe, die von Momoka ausgeht, aber… Momoka ist die “top-maid” für Ange. Von daher wird hierdurch nicht wirklich die Regel gebrochen, dass homoerotische Beziehungen auf Dominanz beruhen.

      “Trotzdem, 4.5/10 sind viel zu Gnädig. 3/10 oder 2.5/10 sind angemessener. Wobei ein 1/10 ist dann auch noch irgendwie zuviel.”

      *shrug* Es ist weniger nur die Qualität, die hier eine Rolle spielt, sondern dass diese Serie einfach abgedreht ist. Und dieser Wahnsinn bietet einen gewissen Unterhaltungswert, finde ich.

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      • Danke für die Antwort,

        ““Und wieso wurde Ange überhaupt erlaubt Momoka zu kaufen?”

        Weil der Rassismus der Serie nicht genug ist und eben einfach noch Sklaverei in den Topf wirft. Und der lapidare Kommentar der Kommandantin “Man kann alles kaufen, wenn man genügend Geld hat.”. Das heißt so viel wie “Slavery’s fine! Of course you can buy a person with money!”.”

        Mich wundert es einfach nur, das Ange als Norma einen “normalen” Menschen kaufen konnte. Wobei, Momoka müsste theoretisch sowieso schon für Tot erklärt worden sein, von daher kann es eigentlich egal sein. Nur das ganze Normas sind Untermenschen Tenor, wird dann wohl nicht mehr konsequent auf Arsenal durchgreifen.

        “Hmm, ja, es gibt eine einseitige Liebe, die von Momoka ausgeht, aber… Momoka ist die “top-maid” für Ange. Von daher wird hierdurch nicht wirklich die Regel gebrochen, dass homoerotische Beziehungen auf Dominanz beruhen. ”

        Wohl eher “war” top-maid, und im Gegensatz zu Zola einst, nötigte und vergewaltigte Ange Momoka nicht um Dominanz zu zeigen und sie gefügig zu machen. Viel mehr herrschte zwischen ihnen ein gewöhnliches Diener-Meister Verhältnis, das zwar durchwegs auf Dominanz beruht, aber auch auf gegenseitigen Vertrauen irgendwo. Und Momoka wurde sicherlich irgendwie ausreichend entlohnt für ihre Tätigkeiten (auch wenn es scheinbar kein Geld mehr in der normalen Welt gibt, aber es herrscht dennoch eine Hierarchie, wie soll den das überhaupt klappen). Das sich Momoka dann scheinbar ihn Ange verliebte, well, love happens, oder so ähnlich.

        “*shrug* Es ist weniger nur die Qualität, die hier eine Rolle spielt, sondern dass diese Serie einfach abgedreht ist. Und dieser Wahnsinn bietet einen gewissen Unterhaltungswert, finde ich.”

        Das findest du abgedreht. Ok abgedreht ist die Serie schon mit ihren Drachen und Motorradmechas, aber ich lese gerade den Manga “Gun X Clover”, der ist um meilen Abgedrehter. Schon allein der Mainchar wird zunächst als Schwächling dargestellt, nur um später zu erfahren das er ein Top Söldner im Rang eines Meisters ist, 100 Kugeln und Granaten ohne weiteres Wegsteckt, eine Art Sonar-Technik und Stimmenimmitation drauf hat und der trotz seines Alters von 30-40, wie ein 14-17 Jähriger (oder so ähnlich) aussieht und sich deswegen als Schwächling ausgibt (zur Tarnung halt).
        Aber ja, der trashige Charm erlaubt es einem Cross Ange trotzallem zu genießen.
        Aber selbst die letzte Folge von Cross Ange war (für mich) besser als die hier, da man wenigstens angedeutet sah, das in der Vergangenheit dieser Welt wohl etwas wie ein Krieg stattfand (und das obwohl es heißt, seit dem Mana gibt es keine Kriege mehr). Und es gibt scheinbar auch männliche Normas (wobei Tusk theoretisch auch Mana verwenden könnte, er aber darauf verzichtet, weil er die “dunkle Seite” des Manas kennt).

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